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Thread: What is "Berlin 10.1" ?

Replies: 13 - Last Post: May 11, 2016 5:35 AM Last Post By: Tamas Csabina
 Posts: 47 Registered: 12/27/02
 What is "Berlin 10.1" ? Posted: Apr 20, 2016 9:02 PM I uploaded the ISO and it installed. Seems to work on simple projects. Is this an upgrade from Seattle 10, upd 1? Virtually zero info on Embarcadero's sites on where this came from, but there is a long bug fix list for Berlin 10.1 as if it had a previous existence. Boost library install fails. The migration tool doesn't recognize Berlin 10.1 as destination product version. It also lists XE10 and Seattle 10 as different products. ?? thanks Kevin
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 Re: What is "Berlin 10.1" ? Posted: Apr 20, 2016 10:10 PM   in response to: Kevin Manuele Kevin wrote: Is this an upgrade from Seattle 10, upd 1? No, it is the next major release of Delphi/C++Builder/RADStudio after Seattle. Starting with Seattle, they are using a whole new naming scheme: "10. " (similar to Apple's naming scheme for OSX). So we started with 10.0 Seattle, then got 10.0 Seattle Update 1. Now 10.2 Berlin is released. Its first update will be 10.1 Berlin Update 1, then Update 2, etc. The next major version will then be 10.2 Tokyo, then 10.2 Tokyo Update 1, and so on. Virtually zero info on Embarcadero's sites on where this came from Really? You haven't been seeing any announcements over the past few days? http://community.embarcadero.com/article/news/16226-embarcadero-announces-release-updates-for-rad-studio-c-builder-and-delphi http://docwiki.embarcadero.com/RADStudio/Berlin/en/What%27s_New http://docwiki.embarcadero.com/RADStudio/Berlin/en/Release_Notes there is a long bug fix list for Berlin 10.1 as if it had a previous existence. Those are the bugs that have been fixed since the last Seattle update. Boost library install fails. In what way exactly? Did you file a bug report with Quality Portal? The migration tool doesn't recognize Berlin 10.1 as destination product version. What migration tool are you referring to? It also lists XE10 and Seattle 10 as different products. There is no XE10 (or XE9), and never was. Seattle is the version that would have been XE10 if they had stayed with the previous naming scheme (they skipped XE9). -- Remy Lebeau (TeamB)
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 Re: What is "Berlin 10.1" ? Posted: Apr 21, 2016 4:13 AM   in response to: Remy Lebeau (Te... Installation was smooth for me, the IDE, Windows SDK and boost library all installed on the first try. It explodes when I try to open most older projects though, but that can probably be fixed by messing with the project files... I'll look into it when the 3rd party components we're using catch up. Remy Lebeau (TeamB) wrote: What migration tool are you referring to? The handy little tool that's installed along with the rest of the product that allows us to migrate IDE settings from one version of C++Builder to another. It's in the start menu. It seems to be using the name "RAD Studio XE10" for 10.1 Berlin.
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 Re: What is "Berlin 10.1" ? Posted: May 11, 2016 5:35 AM   in response to: Martin van der ... Martin van der Plas wrote: It explodes when I try to open most older projects though, but that can probably be fixed by messing with the project files... Never open old projects with the latest IDE. Always create a fresh one one... I know, it is ugly and time consuming, but this is just the way it was with XE...
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 Re: What is "Berlin 10.1" ? Posted: Apr 21, 2016 9:43 AM   in response to: Remy Lebeau (Te... Remy Lebeau (TeamB) wrote: No, it is the next major release of Delphi/C++Builder/RADStudio after Seattle. Starting with Seattle, they are using a whole new naming scheme: "10. " (similar to Apple's naming scheme for OSX). So we started with 10.0 Seattle, then got 10.0 Seattle Update 1. Now 10.2 Berlin is released. Its first update will be 10.1 Berlin Update 1, then Update 2, etc. The next major version will then be 10.2 Tokyo, then 10.2 Tokyo Update 1, and so on. Ok. Wasn't aware of the name game -- how would one know that? I assume Berlin 10.2 a typo. Just to be picky, my version is called C++ 10 Seattle, not 10.0 Really? You haven't been seeing any announcements over the past few days? http://community.embarcadero.com/article/news/16226-embarcadero-announces-release-updates-for-rad-studio-c-builder-and-delphi Show me where they say prior version was called Seattle. Unless one was privy to the naming silliness, this seems like a release update for Berlin 10.0. Those are the bugs that have been fixed since the last Seattle update. Same comment as above. A reasonable person would assume bug fixes for Berlin 10.1 came from Berlin 10.0. What migration tool are you referring to? There is no XE10 (or XE9), and never was. Apparently Embarcadero thinks there is an XE10 See comments from others on XE10 and migration tool Kevin
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 Re: What is "Berlin 10.1" ? Posted: Apr 21, 2016 10:03 AM   in response to: Kevin Manuele Kevin wrote: Ok. Wasn't aware of the name game -- how would one know that? That has been public knowledge since Seattle was first released. I assume Berlin 10.2 a typo. Yes, should be 10.1 Berlin. Just to be picky, my version is called C++ 10 Seattle, not 10.0 C++Builder 10.0 Seattle. Show me where they say prior version was called Seattle. http://community.embarcadero.com/article/news/16170-embarcadero-brings-millions-of-c-and-delphi-developers-to-windows-10-with-its-latest-rad-product-release https://www.embarcadero.com/press-releases/million-developers http://community.embarcadero.com/article/news/16188-embarcadero-rad-studio-10-seattle-now-enables-developers-to-build-delphi-and-c-apps-for-ios-9 http://community.embarcadero.com/article/news/16211-embarcadero-rad-studio-2016-product-approach-and-roadmap-2 http://docwiki.embarcadero.com/RADStudio/Seattle/en/Main_Page -- Remy Lebeau (TeamB)
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 Re: What is "Berlin 10.1" ? Posted: Apr 21, 2016 12:52 AM   in response to: Kevin Manuele Remy, always enjoy your contributions and I am sure for you as insider this all makes sense, but I and many others have been using this Seattle thing called XE10.1 for a while, and now there is another XE10.1. I am sure whoever came up with this name change (again) had good intentions, but it is creating a lot of confusion. At least with XE8 & XE10 I could sort of think it was just another way of writing C++ Builder 8 or 10, which of course is what we all like to think. Us under appreciated long-time clients who just want a reliable IDE and VCL. PS: Following internal versioning, I vote to call this C++ Builder 18 and be done with all the confusion Kevin Manuele wrote: I uploaded the ISO and it installed. Seems to work on simple projects. Is this an upgrade from Seattle 10, upd 1? Virtually zero info on Embarcadero's sites on where this came from, but there is a long bug fix list for Berlin 10.1 as if it had a previous existence. Boost library install fails. The migration tool doesn't recognize Berlin 10.1 as destination product version. It also lists XE10 and Seattle 10 as different products. ?? thanks Kevin Edited by: Mike Versteeg on Apr 21, 2016 2:49 AM
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 Re: What is "Berlin 10.1" ?  Posted: Apr 21, 2016 7:24 PM   in response to: Mike Versteeg Mike Versteeg wrote: Remy, always enjoy your contributions and I am sure for you as insider this all makes sense, but I and many others have been using this Seattle thing called XE10.1 No, you haven't. There has never been an XE10.1 and certainly not one called Seattle. There is only a C++Builder 10 Seattle, Update 1 (no XE). The XE names officially ended with XE8. Note that is some older texts, you might see "XE10", but then that means "10.1 Berlin", NOT "10(.0) Seattle". Seattle was, for a short while, before the naming scheme changed, called XE9, but never XE10. Now there is C++Builder 10.1 Berlin. And the next version will very likely be (according to the roadmap) 10.2 Tokyo. -- Rudy Velthuis http://www.rvelthuis.de "Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind it only the slime of bureaucracy." -- Franz Kafka
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 Re: What is "Berlin 10.1" ? Posted: Apr 21, 2016 2:35 PM   in response to: Kevin Manuele I also have the same two problems. Boost library install fails. I installed using GetIt. The first time the installer hung and I had to kill it with the task manager but it appeared to have installed the files already. I uninstalled, and installed again, this time successfully. However, both times, when I try to compile it chokes on the line  #include  with the error [bcc32c Fatal Error] mu_directories.cpp(9): 'boost\filesystem.hpp' file not found  That file is there though, both in the folder C:\Program Files (x86)\Embarcadero\Studio\18.0\include\boost_1_39\boost and C:\Program Files (x86)\Embarcadero\Studio\18.0\include\boost_1_55\boost The command line for the compile is Checking project dependencies... Compiling namaste_server.cbproj (Debug, Win32) bcc32c command line for "..\..\Reese\general\mu_directories.cpp" c:\program files (x86)\embarcadero\studio\18.0\bin\bcc32c.exe -cc1 -D _DEBUG -D STD_REGEX -n .\Win32\Debug -I C:\Users\reesegj\Projects\Schroer\Namaste -I "c:\program files (x86)\embarcadero\studio\18.0\include\windows\fmx" -I ..\..\Reese\general -I ..\..\..\..\Projects\Schroer\Namaste -isystem "c:\program files (x86)\embarcadero\studio\18.0\include" -isystem "c:\program files (x86)\embarcadero\studio\18.0\include\dinkumware64" -isystem "c:\program files (x86)\embarcadero\studio\18.0\include\windows\crtl" -isystem "c:\program files (x86)\embarcadero\studio\18.0\include\windows\sdk" -isystem "c:\program files (x86)\embarcadero\studio\18.0\include\windows\rtl" -isystem "c:\program files (x86)\embarcadero\studio\18.0\include\windows\vcl"  -isystem C:\Users\Public\Documents\Embarcadero\Studio\18.0\hpp\Win32  -isystem C:\Users\reesegj\Documents\Embarcadero\Studio\18.0\CatalogRepository\DOSCommand-1.0cb\source\hpp\Win32\Debug -isystem C:\Users\reesegj\Documents\Embarcadero\Studio\18.0\CatalogRepository\DOSCommand-1.0cb\source\hpp\Win32\Release -g -fno-limit-debug-info -fborland-extensions -nobuiltininc -nostdsysteminc -triple i686-pc-win32-omf -emit-obj -cxx-abi borland -ffunction-sections -fexceptions -fcxx-exceptions -fseh -mdisable-fp-elim -fno-spell-checking -fno-use-cxa-atexit -fno-threadsafe-statics -main-file-name mu_directories.cpp -x c++ -std=c++11 -O0 -fmath-errno -tM -tW -o .\Win32\Debug\mu_directories.obj -auto-dependency-output -MT .\Win32\Debug\mu_directories.obj ..\..\Reese\general\mu_directories.cpp [bcc32c Fatal Error] mu_directories.cpp(9): 'boost\filesystem.hpp' file not found Failed Elapsed time: 00:00:01.2  The directory shown in bold above does not exist. The migration tool doesn't recognize Berlin 10.1 as destination product version. It also lists XE10 and Seattle 10 as different products. Same here. I tried both "Migrate settings to a newer product version" and "Export settings to a migration file" followed by "Import settings from a migration file" and in neither case did Berlin show up as an option for receiving the old settings. Greg Reese
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 Re: What is "Berlin 10.1" ? Posted: Apr 21, 2016 2:56 PM   in response to: Greg Reese Greg wrote: when I try to compile it chokes on the line #include  with the error [bcc32c Fatal Error] mu_directories.cpp(9): 'boost\filesystem.hpp' file not found
 Check your project configuration. It does not appear that the Boost folder is in your include paths. -- Remy Lebeau (TeamB)
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 Re: What is "Berlin 10.1" ? Posted: Apr 21, 2016 3:17 PM   in response to: Greg Reese El 21/04/2016 a las 23:35, Greg Reese escribió: I also have the same two problems. Boost library install fails. I installed using GetIt. The first time the installer hung and I had to kill it with the task manager but it appeared to have installed the files already. I uninstalled, and installed again, this time successfully. However, both times, when I try to compile it chokes on the line  #include  with the error [bcc32c Fatal Error] mu_directories.cpp(9): 'boost\filesystem.hpp' file not found  That file is there though, both in the folder C:\Program Files (x86)\Embarcadero\Studio\18.0\include\boost_1_39\boost and C:\Program Files (x86)\Embarcadero\Studio\18.0\include\boost_1_55\boost Open Tools -> Options dialog Select then "Enviroment Variables" node In "User overrides" add the following 2 variables (if needed) CG_BOOST_ROOT with the full path to the 1.39 boost folder CG_64_BOOST_ROOT with the full path to the 1.55 boost folder Select the C++ Options -> Path and Directories node Select the 64-bit Windows platform and add (if needed) $(CG_64_BOOST_ROOT) at the begin of the "System include path" Select the 32-bit Windows platform and add (if needed)$(CG_64_BOOST_ROOT) at the begin of the "System include path" of the "Compiler" tab (the new Win32 clang compiler uses the 1.55 version) Select the "Classic compiler" tab and add (if needed) $(CG_BOOST_ROOT)\boost\tr1\tr1;$(CG_BOOST_ROOT); at the begin of the "System include path"
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 Re: What is "Berlin 10.1" ? Posted: Apr 21, 2016 3:37 PM   in response to: Antonio Estevez Antonio wrote: Open Tools -> Options dialog Select then "Enviroment Variables" node In "User overrides" add the following 2 variables (if needed) CG_BOOST_ROOT with the full path to the 1.39 boost folder CG_64_BOOST_ROOT with the full path to the 1.55 boost folder Select the C++ Options -> Path and Directories node Select the 64-bit Windows platform and add (if needed) $(CG_64_BOOST_ROOT) at the begin of the "System include path" Select the 32-bit Windows platform and add (if needed)$(CG_64_BOOST_ROOT) at the begin of the "System include path" of the "Compiler" tab (the new Win32 clang compiler uses the 1.55 version) Select the "Classic compiler" tab and add (if needed) $(CG_BOOST_ROOT)\boost\tr1\tr1;$(CG_BOOST_ROOT); at the begin of the "System include path" All things GetIt should probably be performing automatically when installing Boost. I would suggest filing a bug report with Quality Portal. -- Remy Lebeau (TeamB)
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 Re: What is "Berlin 10.1" ? Posted: Apr 21, 2016 3:50 PM   in response to: Remy Lebeau (Te... El 22/04/2016 a las 0:37, Remy Lebeau (TeamB) escribió: Antonio wrote: Open Tools -> Options dialog Select then "Enviroment Variables" node In "User overrides" add the following 2 variables (if needed) CG_BOOST_ROOT with the full path to the 1.39 boost folder CG_64_BOOST_ROOT with the full path to the 1.55 boost folder Select the C++ Options -> Path and Directories node Select the 64-bit Windows platform and add (if needed) $(CG_64_BOOST_ROOT) at the begin of the "System include path" Select the 32-bit Windows platform and add (if needed)$(CG_64_BOOST_ROOT) at the begin of the "System include path" of the "Compiler" tab (the new Win32 clang compiler uses the 1.55 version) Select the "Classic compiler" tab and add (if needed) $(CG_BOOST_ROOT)\boost\tr1\tr1;$(CG_BOOST_ROOT); at the begin of the "System include path" All things GetIt should probably be performing automatically when installing Boost. I would suggest filing a bug report with Quality Portal. Yes, the boost installer should have done but who knows...
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 Re: What is "Berlin 10.1" ? Posted: Apr 22, 2016 7:30 AM   in response to: Kevin Manuele Thanks Antonio. That fixed the Boost problem. Greg Reese
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