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Thread: Who uses Rave Reports Code Based,any other options?


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Permlink Replies: 3 - Last Post: Jul 20, 2016 6:41 AM Last Post By: Marcello Dias
Marcello Dias

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  Posted: Jul 16, 2016 7:33 PM
Hi,

I was working as a CIO,So I have not being programming for seven years,and probably not
using Rave Reports For 9 years.
What is the current stage of the product?
Is there any other with the same concept?
I mean just a canvas ,not bands,or fixed stuctures?

Thanks,
Marcello
Brent Rose

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Registered: 9/23/00
Re: Who uses Rave Reports Code Based,any other options?
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  Posted: Jul 17, 2016 2:20 PM   in response to: Marcello Dias in response to: Marcello Dias
Despite a long hiatus (of years) where Rave "disappeared" from public
view, it has been recently updated and currently shows some sign of
life... see http://www.nevrona.com/

However, I do not think the code-based components have changed in any
particular way in a very long time. This largely reflects the
development effort that has gone into the Rave Visual Designer, which in
turn reflects the general perception that a reporting tool must be
"visual". Give me the unrestricted power of code-based any day!! in case
you mistake my bias ;-)

During the aforementioned "hiatus", I was compelled to seek an
alternative to Rave code-based - and the only one I discovered that came
close to the core (code-based) functionality I wanted is a product
called "Virtual Print Engine" (VPE). See http://www.idealsoftware.com/

I have found this product to be excellent (and now use it for my
code-based reporting). It has proven to be very precise and reliable.
That said, compared with Rave, it has a very different "philosophical
approach", if you like. As a result, I developed a comprehensive "VCL
interface" to VPE (called VPE+) which implements an approach more akin
to the Rave style. This includes entirely optional "bands" and "frame
structures" (which may not interest you) and print functions that all
reflect how I might have wanted to see Rave code-based enhanced, as well
as a far more comprehensive "application user interface". It is still
100% code-based. You can still just "print to canvas" to suit yourself
(this is what "code-based" is all about, afterall).

VPE+ is a "free add-on with source code" to VPE (which must be
licensed). See http://onlycode.nz/ for free download, demo app, Users
Guide, source code, examples.

A couple of key initial differences between VPE and Rave:

a) VPE is definitely more expensive. But you get what you pay for, and
VPE delivers a lot of value. I can accept that this cost is a
significant factor - but, especially given that Rave code-based has
shown no sign of further development in over a decade, I have no regrets
spending the money. I certainly have not been disappointed with the core
functionality of VPE, and the product support provided.

b) Rave is 100% Delphi code (which is nice and neat), whereas VPE is
necessarily delivered in a single DLL. At the end of the day, I accepted
this do not consider it a problem.

Hope this helps.

Regards

Brent Rose

On 17/07/2016 2:33 p.m., Marcello Dias wrote:
Hi,

I was working as a CIO,So I have not being programming for seven years,and probably not
using Rave Reports For 9 years.
What is the current stage of the product?
Is there any other with the same concept?
I mean just a canvas ,not bands,or fixed stuctures?

Thanks,
Marcello
Marcello Dias

Posts: 10
Registered: 1/17/16
Re: Who uses Rave Reports Code Based,any other options?  
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  Posted: Jul 20, 2016 6:41 AM   in response to: Brent Rose in response to: Brent Rose
In fact VPE was allways better than Rave,But just impossible for a Brazilians pocket.
Also I don´t know how they "live reports" would feet in a server centric environment like UNIGUI.

Thanks,
Marcello
Brent Rose wrote:
Despite a long hiatus (of years) where Rave "disappeared" from public
view, it has been recently updated and currently shows some sign of
life... see http://www.nevrona.com/

However, I do not think the code-based components have changed in any
particular way in a very long time. This largely reflects the
development effort that has gone into the Rave Visual Designer, which in
turn reflects the general perception that a reporting tool must be
"visual". Give me the unrestricted power of code-based any day!! in case
you mistake my bias ;-)

During the aforementioned "hiatus", I was compelled to seek an
alternative to Rave code-based - and the only one I discovered that came
close to the core (code-based) functionality I wanted is a product
called "Virtual Print Engine" (VPE). See http://www.idealsoftware.com/

I have found this product to be excellent (and now use it for my
code-based reporting). It has proven to be very precise and reliable.
That said, compared with Rave, it has a very different "philosophical
approach", if you like. As a result, I developed a comprehensive "VCL
interface" to VPE (called VPE+) which implements an approach more akin
to the Rave style. This includes entirely optional "bands" and "frame
structures" (which may not interest you) and print functions that all
reflect how I might have wanted to see Rave code-based enhanced, as well
as a far more comprehensive "application user interface". It is still
100% code-based. You can still just "print to canvas" to suit yourself
(this is what "code-based" is all about, afterall).

VPE+ is a "free add-on with source code" to VPE (which must be
licensed). See http://onlycode.nz/ for free download, demo app, Users
Guide, source code, examples.

A couple of key initial differences between VPE and Rave:

a) VPE is definitely more expensive. But you get what you pay for, and
VPE delivers a lot of value. I can accept that this cost is a
significant factor - but, especially given that Rave code-based has
shown no sign of further development in over a decade, I have no regrets
spending the money. I certainly have not been disappointed with the core
functionality of VPE, and the product support provided.

b) Rave is 100% Delphi code (which is nice and neat), whereas VPE is
necessarily delivered in a single DLL. At the end of the day, I accepted
this do not consider it a problem.

Hope this helps.

Regards

Brent Rose

On 17/07/2016 2:33 p.m., Marcello Dias wrote:
Hi,

I was working as a CIO,So I have not being programming for seven years,and probably not
using Rave Reports For 9 years.
What is the current stage of the product?
Is there any other with the same concept?
I mean just a canvas ,not bands,or fixed stuctures?

Thanks,
Marcello
George Winkler

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Registered: 1/2/00
Re: Who uses Rave Reports Code Based,any other options?
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  Posted: Jul 18, 2016 5:42 AM   in response to: Marcello Dias in response to: Marcello Dias
I agree with Brent Rose. I have used Rave since Version 1 using only the code based functions. I like to direct my printing how I want it. Rave does this very well.

George Winkler

Marcello Dias wrote:
Hi,

I was working as a CIO,So I have not being programming for seven years,and probably not
using Rave Reports For 9 years.
What is the current stage of the product?
Is there any other with the same concept?
I mean just a canvas ,not bands,or fixed stuctures?

Thanks,
Marcello
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